A Man, A Mission, And A Podcast

Ace of Spades recently appeared on a podcast hosted by a gentleman who goes by the name of Beppo Venerdi. You can find the podcast, and Ace’s post on the subject, here. I cannot recommend it enough.

A wide array of subjects are discussed, ranging from a little bit of Ace’s bio to how he found the ‘sphere to whether the Red Pill or The Sunglasses are a better analogy all the way to how men need to approach their Mission in life. It has given me a lot to think about, and I should probably get around to writing a post or two in response.

The most likely subject that I will write about will tie in to a post of mine that Ace mentioned in the podcast, It’s Not The Fall That Kills You. That post is almost 2 years old now, and I still think it is one of my best. Its long past overdue for me to take that subject up again and continue where I left off. In the interim, listen to the podcast if you can find the time. I think most will find it quite profitable.

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16 responses to “A Man, A Mission, And A Podcast

  1. mdavid

    I wish you would post on The Fall concept more often. We took hard and practical action regarding these ideas years ago (books Your Money or Your Life and Happy Are You Poor are apt here) but we rarely see anyone doing likewise. Puzzling. Worthy of a blog post. Or three.

    Modern man is controlled economically, yes, but he falls spiritually first, and the connection between the two is usually ignored. What is missed even more often? Practical solutions to becoming economically free. Now that’s worthy of a dozen blog posts.

  2. Would like to hear your thoughts on my second question asked in the podcast.

  3. @ Mimic

    I’m trying to remember, what was your second question again?

  4. @ donal

    I asked which historical period closely resemble this modern age?

  5. mdavid

    Mimic, which historical period closely resemble this modern age?

    I’ve always thought either 1492 or, the Great Depression/Dust Bowl era.

    “New World” (covered in the first podcast) I first ran over in the book Juggernaut: Why the System Crushes…

    The American Depression is a good match as well, due to the economic displacement, division of wealth, rapid change in technology, government control of everything, and the decline of the family all wrapped into one. It’s sort of scary because the only thing that seems to pull a culture out of that sort of funk is war (WWI & WWII in my analogy) and that’s the only way I can see this one ending as well (besides extinction). But love to be wrong.

  6. Feminine But Not Feminist

    I read an article yesterday (that I hope to have a post up about this evening) that suggests we are in a time like Sodom was just before they were destroyed by Fire from Heaven. Or like in the time of Noah, just before the Flood.

  7. @ Mimic

    I don’t think there is an exact parallel. There are a number of facts at work now which haven’t combined in this way before. Among them you can include technologies that both bring us together and keep us apart, material wealth at an unprecedented level, the collapse of most social institutions, and the most liberated “sexual marketplace” that has likely existed in human history.

    We have ventured boldly where angels feared to tread, as it were.

  8. Feminine But Not Feminist

    Eh, make it within the next few days instead of this evening. Not quite satisfied with it yet and likely won’t be tonight. Le Sigh.

  9. @ mdavid

    I wish you would post on The Fall concept more often.

    If I get some time I will try and write a quick post tonight about it. I have a few ideas I want to explore.

  10. theshadowedknight

    Donal, I would hardly call the sexual marketplace liberated. The restraints on nearly every aspect of men, and their conditioning were designed to limit their options. Even women have their behavior restrained. Yes, their worst habits and tendencies were freed, but their best was taken from them. This marketplace was not liberated; it was designed to create chaos and suspicion so that the participants could be separated, isolated, and controlled.

    A woman working a corporate make work job and staring longingly out at the mothers and children playing in the park is not free, and neither is the man watching porn because he cannot trust a woman enough to be truly intimate.

    The Shadowed Knight

  11. mdavid

    TSK, that’s an astute comment. I’ve been rolling it around in my mind. Comments:

    I would hardly call the sexual marketplace liberated. The restraints on nearly every aspect of men

    It’s pretty bimodal though. Savvy men who plow through women like a dophin through waves via birth control are fully unrestrained. The other 80%, yes.

    Even women have their behavior restrained. Yes, their worst habits and tendencies were freed, but their best was taken from them.

    Not taken from them. Given up. Of their own free will. My sympathy is limited.

    This marketplace was not liberated; it was designed to create chaos and suspicion so that the participants could be separated, isolated, and controlled.

    I would not say it’s “designed”, but merely the natural progress of a secular culture. It even works. The heartburn comes from people mixing traditional religious culture with secular.

    Basically, the power of the RCC in the “dark ages” allowed for Christian political enforcement of sex and marriage. That culture is the basis of Western marriage. The Reformation ended this unusual situation, sure, but it was hardly designed. I would say the modern SMP is actually more natural, common, and predictable than the old RC version.

    A woman working a corporate make work job and staring longingly out at the mothers and children playing…is not free…neither is the man watching porn because he cannot trust a woman enough to be truly intimate.

    She has 10 years of youth and beauty in order to choose what she wants. Just because she regrets her free choice later doesn’t make her less free. Fertility is rarely a right in any culture.

  12. Feminine But Not Feminist

    @ mdavid

    She has 10 years of youth and beauty in order to choose what she wants. Just because she regrets her free choice later doesn’t make her less free. Fertility is rarely a right in any culture.

    It’s not always her choice. And 10 years? Depending on how one lives and the choices she makes, that isn’t always the case either. Having only 10 years of that is what happens when one lives a very unhealthy and dangerous lifestyle, not if one doesn’t.

  13. I thought that the irony behind my use of the word “liberated” was apparent. Next time I will use quotes.

    Sexual “liberation” merely means that instead of being under the power of the community (when it comes to sexuality), we are under the power of the flesh. We merely switch one master for another.

  14. mdavid

    FBNF, It’s not always her choice. And 10 years? Depending

    True. And I wager the secular marriage market will be even more grim for young women as men begin to approach marriage with extreme trepidation, if at all. It’s the last of the glory years for female secular marriage, methinks. I’d rather have my sons go to war than marry.

  15. Novaseeker

    I think the market is “liberated” in the sense that all “free markets” are — that is, they are the most free for the strongest market participants and in many cases all but walled off to many/most others.

    This is the irony of “free markets”. When you drop rules and gatekeeping and limits, all you do is play directly to the strengths of the strongest hands in the market, and those strongest hands almost immediately proceed to “shake out the weaker hands” in the market, thereby further consolidating their dominance. The uncomfortable truth is that where there are gross disparities in the strength of hand participants are bringing into the market, simply “liberalizing” the market by dropping rules will create the predictable result of the strongest hands winning big, and squeezing out most other hands over time. We have seen this happen in the broader economic market, in the labor market, in the stock market and of course in the sexual market. A liberated market is most typically a “market utterly dominated by the strongest participants”, in most cases.

  16. mdavid

    Nova, the limits of your economic analogy: reasonably attractive young women ages 16-26 holding the sexual power to draw men into marriage regardless of the personal risk to the men. Sex controls men, better or worse.

    As the marriage legal risk increases for men only, only the most attractive women will find quality offers…so average Christian girls must decide: settle for lesser men early, or just throw in the towel and participate in the free marketplace orgy with the thin hope of it working out?

    Caveat: while young women have the power to sidestep your free sexual marketplace, only fathers can initiate (girls don’t “learn” family out of thin air). Personally, I’m estimating less than 5% of young women will pull it off. Scary times for both young women and men. They would both do well to widen their mating nets by travel, technology, and aggression…and to to do so while young. I heard red-sided garter snakes use >20% of their energy attracting a mate…today’s traditionals should consider at least that (with no guarantee).

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