Masculine Clothing- Is There Such A Thing?

On this blog and on others I have addressed the subject of feminine clothing. But I don’t think that I have ever addressed the subject of masculine clothing. In fact, I had never really given the subject any thought until I saw this comment by Cellogirl over at peacefulhonestlife:

I have yet to read donal graeme’s blog for anything on how a man should carry himself because there are too many men out here that dress very poorly yet, they want a high-value woman to call their own. No! No! No!

That not how things work a masculine man is very attractive but, a high value masculine man that dresses properly and can be conversational is even more attractive. There are not too many of those out there anymore. :(

So, how exactly should a masculine man dress? What kind of clothing is appropriate for a man who wishes to establish or demonstrate that he is high-value? Well, I can think of a few examples of clothing that does the opposite:

1) Really short shorts. You know the type. The ones that look more like speedos than shorts.

2) Super tight fitted jeans. Those can look good on women (although I still prefer dresses and skirts), but they look awful on men. For example:

photo of jeansThose are some pretty un-masculine jeans right there. Definitely not something a high-value man should be seen wearing.

3) Wimpy scarves. Scarves aren’t necessarily feminine, but if you want them to be masculine they need to be matched with the proper clothing and be anything but dainty. This doesn’t cut it:

a scarf

Something like that just screams “PATHETIC” to the whole world.

4) The color pink. A long time ago pink might have been a color used by men. That time is long gone, and long buried. Don’t count on it every coming back. Pink is not a masculine color, so don’t wear it. (Unless you are John Wayne. In which case you can wear whatever you want.)

Ok, those are a few examples of what not to wear. But what makes for masculine clothing for men? Some ideas are easy enough:

1) The Tuxedo- simple but stately, a man who can wear a Tux well is a man who can tell the world that he is high-value. Don’t believe me? Take it up with 007…

Picture of Scottish actor Sean Connery taken in 19

2) While not quite as classy as a Tux, a well tailored suit can be nearly as effective. And depending on your profession, something you can wear nearly every day.

3) A uniform. The old saying that “women dig a man in a uniform” has some truth to it, even in this day and age. A good looking uniform can lend a man a sharpness and presence which sets him apart from less men.

To be honest, this topic is one where I am out of my league. Male fashion has never been a strength of mine, and it was pretty obvious to me when I tried to write this post. So I am asking for my readers to provide ideas (whether links, photos, videos or whatever) on what they believe masculine clothing looks like.

Update: Deti has contributed his thoughts on the subject of proper dress for men:

1. Determine your body type and dress for it. Three basic body types: The muscular man (mesomorph), heavy man (endomorph) and thin/skinny guy (ectomorph). Determine yours, and dress for it. Muscular men can wear pretty much what they want. Ectomorphs should wear clothes that widen them; and endomorphs should wear lengthening, tailored clothes and dark colors.

2. Determine the dress level for the occasion, and dress one step up from that (except for formal occasions). The idea is to be one of the better dressed men at the occasion.

3. The tuxedo is appropriate for formal occasions only. However, it is not appropriate to wear a tuxedo to a wedding unless you are in the wedding party.

4. The following should be in every man’s wardrobe, regardless of his age, station and profession:

CASUAL CLOTHES
a. Good quality white t-shirts.
b. Blue jeans, relaxed fit (preferably Levi’s 501s because they fit almost every body type).
c. polo shirts in several colors.
d. long sleeve and short sleeve button down shirts in several colors.
e. slacks: khaki, tan, navy, and black.
f. a short heavy winter coat.

SUITS AND ASSOCIATED ACCESSORIES:
a. at least two 2 piece suits, one navy, one charcoal, medium weight fabric.
b. at least 3 white barrel cuff shirts, one oxford, the others standard point collar.
c. at least one French cuff shirt.
d. at least one set of cuff links.
e. medium width ties of varying colors and patterns. Some of them must be red.
f. one pair of wingtips, black or burgundy.
g. one other pair of lace up dress shoes, black or burgundy
h. a pair of loafers, black or burgundy
(all shoes with leather uppers and frequently shined)
i. a navy blazer with brass buttons. (This is absolutely essential. You MUST get one of these. It will be one of the most versatile, oft worn items in your wardrobe).
j. accessories (ties, cuff links and socks). Understated and conservative is the order of the day. You may have a couple of fun ties — for holidays or depicting some cartoon character. You may not wear your Marvin the Martian tie to work, however.
k. One long, heavy wool winter coat.
l. One long, lighter raincoat/trench coat.

Update 2: Lady Siygn provided a link to site about masculine style. Worth a look, I should think.

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26 responses to “Masculine Clothing- Is There Such A Thing?

  1. deti

    Sartorialism is one of my (few) talents.

    Here are my thoughts on how a man should dress.

    1. Determine your body type and dress for it. Three basic body types: The muscular man (mesomorph), heavy man (endomorph) and thin/skinny guy (ectomorph). Determine yours, and dress for it. Muscular men can wear pretty much what they want. Ectomorphs should wear clothes that widen them; and endomorphs should wear lengthening, tailored clothes and dark colors.

    2. Determine the dress level for the occasion, and dress one step up from that (except for formal occasions). The idea is to be one of the better dressed men at the occasion.

    3. The tuxedo is appropriate for formal occasions only. However, it is not appropriate to wear a tuxedo to a wedding unless you are in the wedding party.

    4. The following should be in every man’s wardrobe, regardless of his age, station and profession:

    CASUAL CLOTHES
    a. Good quality white t-shirts.
    b. Blue jeans, relaxed fit (preferably Levi’s 501s because they fit almost every body type).
    c. polo shirts in several colors.
    d. long sleeve and short sleeve button down shirts in several colors.
    e. slacks: khaki, tan, navy, and black.
    f. a short heavy winter coat.

    SUITS AND ASSOCIATED ACCESSORIES:
    a. at least two 2 piece suits, one navy, one charcoal, medium weight fabric.
    b. at least 3 white barrel cuff shirts, one oxford, the others standard point collar.
    c. at least one French cuff shirt.
    d. at least one set of cuff links.
    e. medium width ties of varying colors and patterns. Some of them must be red.
    f. one pair of wingtips, black or burgundy.
    g. one other pair of lace up dress shoes, black or burgundy
    h. a pair of loafers, black or burgundy
    (all shoes with leather uppers and frequently shined)
    i. a navy blazer with brass buttons. (This is absolutely essential. You MUST get one of these. It will be one of the most versatile, oft worn items in your wardrobe).
    j. accessories (ties, cuff links and socks). Understated and conservative is the order of the day. You may have a couple of fun ties — for holidays or depicting some cartoon character. You may not wear your Marvin the Martian tie to work, however.
    k. One long, heavy wool winter coat.
    l. One long, lighter raincoat/trench coat.

  2. deti

    On formal wear:

    If you work in any profession (education, business, law, medicine, government, the arts), you will have to attend formal events. You should purchase your own tuxedo. Go conservative on this. Black only. Notch lapel, one or two button jacket, cummerbund/vest, pants, white formal shirt. You need to buy a cuff links and stud set with it. Go conservative on this to start and later get more daring.

    The good thing about this is that there is not a single man alive who cannot look good in a tuxedo.

  3. deti

    Things a man should not wear:

    1. Speedo swimwear, unless he is Ryan Lochte or Michael Phelps.
    2. You shall not wear the following with shorts: calf length tube socks, and dark socks of any length.
    3. Sandals.
    4. Flip flops, unless at home, at the pool, or at the beach.
    5. Shorts that do not come to at least mid thigh.
    6. Excessive jewelry. (You are allowed one necklace, one bracelet, a wedding ring, and one ring on your right hand. Not all at the same time.) (A wristwatch does not count as jewelry.)
    7. “Affliction” T-shirts.
    8. Shirts with vulgar, faux clever, or trendy photographs or slogans which can be identified from more than 6 inches away.
    9. cell phone belt clips.
    10. Anything plaid below your waistline, unless you are of Celtic, Irish or Scottish descent and the item is worn as part of your heritage for a specific event; or you are on a golf course.

  4. deti

    This is an example of a well-tailored conservative business dress suit:

  5. Thanks for all of the advice and suggestions Deti. I will integrate some of them into the post tomorrow.

  6. What do you guys think of this site?

  7. I’m pretty clueless about the details of fashion, so I try to keep it simple. I try to follow Deti’s #2 rule of being just a bit better dressed than the average. In my situation, that basically means business casual — slacks and a shirt with a collar, so some days I add a tie.

    Many years ago I read an article that complained that men have started dressing like 12-year-old boys going to the park to play ball: shorts, t-shirts with slogans, and caps. The author’s theory was that their women dress them like boys to de-masculinize them and make them less attractive to other women. I don’t know if he was correct about the reason — I suspect many of these men buy those sloppy clothes for themselves — but I haven’t worn shorts or other ‘boy’ clothes in public since, except for actual sports.

    When I started dressing better, I also discovered that a collared shirt with an undershirt can actually be cooler in the summertime than a t-shirt, and prevents big sweat marks in the bargain. As a guy who sweats a lot, I used to try to wear less as the heat and humidity increased, and I’d end up with big sweat stains all the time. Wearing more stopped that. Whaddya know.

  8. I agree with the tux! I think men look so much more attractive when they wear suits.

  9. @Cail Corishev: I agree, men these days do dress like 12 year old boys or just gay…It is very sad, but it gives a man who dresses masculine an advantage because he will stand out to all the women around him.

  10. A Man in a well tailored suit is to a woman what an HB 9 in hot lingerie is to a man.

  11. OldSchool

    I think this is going to vary from city boys to country boys. Us men in the country are going to be wearing Carhartt’s and work clothes. Sorry, you won’t catch me dead in a tux, suit, etc.

  12. 3) A uniform. The old saying that “women dig a man in a uniform” has some truth to it, even in this day and age. A good looking uniform can lend a man a sharpness and presence which sets him apart from less men.

    Mmm, I never look at UPS drivers that way. Nope.

    Ahem.

  13. @ SSM

    Hehe, forgot about that comment.Part of me wonders what the appeal of a uniform is. Status indicator, maybe? That is where I usually figure clothes belong, along with Money, in the LAMPS traits.

  14. The best fashion advice I was ever given was to always wear good quality shoes, and never wear white sneakers unless you’re actually exercising.

  15. Anja

    Old School, don’t worry. While I love seeing my man in a suit, he seldom wears it as he doesn’t have that sort of job. He lookes incredible in work clothes: jeans and plaid shirts are one of the most masculine things a man can wear when he wears them for working. If they are just for show, not so much 😀

  16. It seems to me (and Anja’s comment supports it) that the right clothing for a man says two things about him:

    1) He knows what he’s doing.
    2) He’s on a mission, accomplishing something.

    That’s probably why uniforms are almost universally attractive: they say (truthfully or not) that the man has some sort of skill and is on a mission to do something. A tuxedo is a sort of social uniform, showing that the man knows what he’s doing socially and is going somewhere socially important (and that he can afford a tux).

    So it makes sense that a man can look good in jeans and a flannel shirt if he wears them well and they represent skillful work. A lot depends on how he carries them, if he looks confident in them as his “uniform.”

  17. adayofbeingagirlslife

    Interesting because I shared the same thoughts as well when it came to men in the south, many people in the north believe that men in the south don’t know how to dress. That is somewhat true because the influences of the north have finally hit the south in the 20 years; the attraction between man and woman have been strain by articles of clothing.

    Another factor you should mention is hygiene I have found tons of men in South Carolina and some places in Georgia that don’t do well in hygiene. Some have teeth yellow that look liked they were rubbed with butter and, there are some men when they open their mouth you smell New Jersey.

    I love your post on how to dress as a man and how not to dress as a man. I agree with Cellogirl with the conversational aspect. There are more men that can’t hold conversations that are meaningful or intelligent. I am finding more men to state stupid things rather than smart things. The other day a man came up to me asking me if I was a virgin and if so do I want to do it; no I will not engage in sexual intercourse until marriage.

    I think you should make one for conversational components when talking to women and, have a post for women how to keep those whom are not willing to commit to leave you alone. There are some men out here that just won’t take no for an answer my question is why?

  18. anonymous_ng

    Deti has hit the basics, but I want to add a few details.

    – Fit is king. Buy the right size, and then find a good tailor and as funds permit, get all your clothes that aren’t knit properly tailored.
    – Learn what constitutes quality and to the degree you can spend on quality clothing. Bonded leather shoes with glued on soles aren’t going to look nice as long as quality calfskin shoes with welted soles.
    – keep shoe trees in your leather shoes
    – you can go broke chasing fashion, instead choose classic men’s style
    – natural materials:leather, wool, cotton, linen, silk, cashmere
    – black suits are more formal and should generally be reserved for funerals
    – there are a multitude of rules for men on how to dress properly, but given the deplorable state of men’s dress in these here United States, showing up in appropriate and well-fitted clothing will put you at the front of the class.
    – I’m going to disagree with Donal. Pink can most definitely be worn, but you must be secure in yourself, like the color and how it looks on you, and for all that’s good and proper get the right shade.

    This is OK – http://g.nordstromimage.com/imagegallery/store/product/Gigantic/14/_8075574.jpg

    This is NOT – http://g.nordstromimage.com/imagegallery/store/product/Gigantic/13/_8091233.jpg

    Without getting into the whole discussion of what defines masculine and feminine etc, to the degree than men don’t wear clothes that at this time in history are customarily held to be women’s clothes[dresses, skirts, short jackets, ruffled bloused shirts etc], dressing in a masculine manner really means dressing for the occasion, and like an adult.

  19. CaseyAnn

    No to jeans and t-shirts!

  20. thehap (thehaproject)

    It is my opinion that ties are of the devil. If I wanted to wear a noose, I would just wear one made of rope.

    Thankfully, a nice mandarin collar and stylish button get the job done well.

  21. “It is my opinion that ties are of the devil. If I wanted to wear a noose, I would just wear one made of rope.

    Thankfully, a nice mandarin collar and stylish button get the job done well.”

    Not unless one is actually a mandarin. The suit and tie is the tribal costume of traditional polite Anglo-American society, and rejecting is a rejection of polite society or one’s place in it.

  22. Ties are hot! Just sayin.

  23. JAMES F. DURBIN

    DETI……YOU ROCK! THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.JAMES DURBIN

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